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    More Form News From ATF

    This just in from ATF... Another step into modern times!

    We're Updating Our eForms Systems

    On Wednesday, July 31st, starting at 6:00 PM, ATF’s eForms systems will be undergoing maintenance as part of an ongoing process to enhance our services. During this time, eForms will not be available. These systems are expected to return to full service by 2:00 AM on Thursday, August 1, 2013.

    The enhancements to the system will be as follows:

    The eForm 6A has been modified to display the “Number and Kind of Package Information” on a separate overflow page. “See overflow page for number and kind of packages” will be displayed in block 9(b) of the form and descriptive information that would normally be displayed in block 9(b) will be displayed on the overflow page. This change was made at the request of industry members who discovered that there was not enough room on the form to put all the information that was necessary in that block. This is another example of where we were able to make a change based on your recommendation.

    NFA eForms are finally here!!!! ATF is pleased to announce the implementation of the NFA forms into ATF’s eForms system. ATF Forms 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 9 and 10 are currently available for eForms submission.

    The submission of Forms 2, 3, 4, 5 and 9 can only be done by a Federal firearms licensee who has paid the special (occupational) tax for the current Tax Year.

    If the submission of the form requires fingerprints, photographs, and the Law Enforcement Certification, the submission cannot be done using eForms – the application must be submitted on paper to the NFA Branch. Accordingly, Forms 1, 4 and 5 may be submitted using eForms if the applicant maker or transferee is a legal entity, such as a corporation, trust, or LLC. The submission of the application will require that the documents establishing the legal entity be attached electronically to the application.

    For Forms 1 or 4 that are submitted with making or transfer tax due, the tax payment will be made through Pay.Gov, just prior to the submission of the application. Pay.Gov is a system, of the US Treasury’s Financial Management, that allows the submitter to pay the tax by credit/debit card or from a bank account. For detailed information on Pay.gov you can visit their website at www.pay.gov.

    Jeff Folloder

    NFATCA Executive Director
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    Is there any further word as to the addition of fingerprint requirements for officers/trustees of corp/trust transfers? Hopefully that does not happen, but it seems as though it is a likely "poison pill".

    The irony here could be that if/when CLEO goes away, we may find that ALL form submissions require fingerprints and so the eForm system will be pointless.

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    Nothing at this point. That was part of a notice that is precursor to even an NPRM... so no real traction at this time.

    Jeff Folloder

    NFATCA Executive Director
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    Quote Originally Posted by sillycon View Post
    The irony here could be that if/when CLEO goes away, we may find that ALL form submissions require fingerprints and so the eForm system will be pointless.
    The logical thing to do would be to allow electronic form submissions and make it so that any information which could not be submitted electronically could be sent in via hard copy.

    Too bad the government isn't logical most of the time.

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    The reconciliation of hard paper to e-paper is a nightmare; private companies spend millions (if not billions) every year to do just that.

    Expecting the government to be successful and efficient at something like that is akin to expecting smurfs to pop out of your blueberry corn flakes tomorrow morning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sillycon View Post
    The reconciliation of hard paper to e-paper is a nightmare; private companies spend millions (if not billions) every year to do just that.

    Expecting the government to be successful and efficient at something like that is akin to expecting smurfs to pop out of your blueberry corn flakes tomorrow morning.

    I am not a conspiracy nut, but I do think there are higher ups at the ATF and in the administration who want the gears of the NFA as gummed up as possible. All under the guise of "compliance and safety" of course. I am under no illusions that the current director is very anti 2nd amendment and the idea of civilians in possession of title ii weapons keeps him up at night.

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    It's not perfect, but the online processing of eForms is live. Although instructions on how to use it were a little kludgy, here's a simplified set:

    You need to go here https://www.atfonline.gov/EForms/ and register. Once your registration is accepted, you will need to associate your FFL(s) with your account. You do that by following these instructions: The FFL Number association is done by clicking on the “My Profile” Tab. Then click on the FFL/AECA/EIN button, enter the first three and the last five digits of your FFL number in the FFL Number field and submit the request. You will have to indicate if you will be submitting forms as the Super user (who must be listed as a responsible person on the FFL), or a Delegate, or a Submitter. There must be one and only one Super User for each FFL. You may request to be associated with multiple FFL Numbers. You will receive notification when your request is approved and then the FFL number (s) will be available for selection from the drop down on the “Applicant Page” of the form. It will take a bit for you to receive the approval notice.

    After that, you can click on the main page after log in and select your forms for populating. Go slowly as there are sometimes connectivity issues and you need to actually see the field populate before you move on.

    NFA Branch HAS CONFIRMED that eForms submissions WILL take priority over regular paper submissions. Improved turnarounds will be significant.

    Jeff Folloder

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    So with the eForms taking priority, does that mean us plebeians who have to do Form 1s and 4s as individuals (requiring paper submission) will get pushed even further back in the pending queue? Thus adding even more months to our waits?
    Last edited by jason8844; 08-22-2013 at 01:06 PM.

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    Yes, individuals will still have to do paper forms, though ATF is working on providing that functionality via eForms, too. The wait should not increase because NFA Branch is actually adding bodies. Please see the other post in House News.

    Jeff Folloder

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    I saw on NFA tracker today that after only 4 months the first people who submitted forms electronically are getting their stamps. Needless to say, I am jealous! But I am happy to see some part of this system getting modernized!

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