Longer wait times at the NFA Branch?

[jason8844]

Since the Keynan lost on gun control publicly they will backdoor the implementation by making it such a PITA that it won't be worth the effort. The general gun owning public could care less about NFA anyways and if these last stamps ever get approved they are the last for me. Not worth my time any longer.

I was only asking because I know there is a lot of hearsay on the internet and was curious if you heard it from the NFA Branch itself.

I am curious as to the trust/individual stuff myself. All my transfers and Form 1s are as individuals since my CLEO signs off on them. I currently have a few in the pending process and another to go out later this month for an HK 94 clone SBR. My 2nd question was kind of for the whole new trust regulation proposal being debated now. Since mine all have CLEO sign-offs, I was curious if mine were invalildated too like yours.

Thanks for the update.

This system is broken and no one will address it. I will be calling Sen. Cruz's office tomorrow.

[ddnc]

IIRC, there is no more second pending. I really didn't know when they started that crap anyway to be honest. I received 4 stamps in Jan 2013 that were submitted in Aug 2012. There was never any mention of second pending on any previous stamps including these 4. I then sent 2 more in Jan. 2013 (submitted) that initially went pending March 17, 2013 then "second, July 16, 2013. There were by NFA phone confirmation to be approved 1-2 weeks ago. Their SOP is currently to say " approval is 15 months from check cashed" and do not address the "pending" status. I just think they are preparing to make this an extremely long, tedious, convoluted, very drawn out process with the ultimate goal of discouraging civi ownership of NFA weps.

[jason8844]

IIRC, there is no more second pending. I really didn't know when they started that crap anyway to be honest. I received 4 stamps in Jan 2013 that were submitted in Aug 2012. There was never any mention of second pending on any previous stamps including these 4. I then sent 2 more in Jan. 2013 (submitted) that initially went pending March 17, 2013 then "second, July 16, 2013. There were by NFA phone confirmation to be approved 1-2 weeks ago. Their SOP is currently to say " approval is 15 months from check cashed" and do not address the "pending" status. I just think they are preparing to make this an extremely long, tedious, convoluted, very drawn out process with the ultimate goal of discouraging civi ownership of NFA weps.

Well, I will call the NFA Branch too tomorrow and see what they tell me. According to the data on NFA tracker, people who submitted paperwork in January are reporting that they are getting their stamps in now. Granted there is a lull due to the shutdown, but they are trickling in again. Both trusts and individuals are showing stamps coming in.

[jason8844]

I also never understood why anti-gunners hate the NFA so much. They get everything they want. They know they can not "ban" guns outright so what is the next best thing? Tax them, register them and force the owners to submit to draconian laws regarding storage and transportation of them. It is a liberal wet dream. You would think they would want more of it.

[ddnc]

Well, I will call the NFA Branch too tomorrow and see what they tell me. According to the data on NFA tracker, people who submitted paperwork in January are reporting that they are getting their stamps in now. Granted there is a lull due to the shutdown, but they are trickling in again. Both trusts and individuals are showing stamps coming in.

I would be really interested in the story you get.

[jason8844]

I would be really interested in the story you get.

I called today. They told me when my transfers went pending, but they said they could not estimate when they would get approved. This did surprise me, but did not confirm or deny a 15 month wait. So I did not get any information regarding our conversation here.

I hope someone with any inside knowledge will post. Maybe Mr. Folloder could shed some light on this as I know he personally knows people on the inside of the NFA Branch.

[ddnc]

IIRC, there is no more second pending. I really didn't know when they started that crap anyway to be honest. I received 4 stamps in Jan 2013 that were submitted in Aug 2012. There was never any mention of second pending on any previous stamps including these 4. I then sent 2 more in Jan. 2013 (submitted) that initially went pending March 17, 2013 then "second, July 16, 2013. There were by NFA phone confirmation to be approved 1-2 weeks ago. Their SOP is currently to say " approval is 15 months from check cashed" and do not address the "pending" status. I just think they are preparing to make this an extremely long, tedious, convoluted, very drawn out process with the ultimate goal of discouraging civi ownership of NFA weps.

I received a phone call this past weekend from a fellow NFA receipient stating he received his stamp for an item he sent in, in Jan. 2013. He was also kind enough to inform me that ATF had also sent him MY STAMP, one of 2 submitted in Jan. 2013. I ask if my other stamp was in there also, "no" he replied. I called NFA and both were approved Nov. 12. Both were mailed Jan 22, 2013, according to NFA received Feb. 6, 2013 and approved Nov. 12, 2013.
So 9 months, 6 days or 278 days. I have yet to receive these in hand to date. I also informed NFA they sent my stamp to the wrong address.
I understand ATF has now gone back to the "pending to approval" thing again and the 3 month e-form receipts that some were lucky enough to receive was only a system test and is not a timeline for e-forms. I wonder now or if ever, the 4 eforms I subbed in Sept. will come to fruitition.

[jason8844]

I received a phone call this past weekend from a fellow NFA receipient stating he received his stamp for an item he sent in, in Jan. 2013. He was also kind enough to inform me that ATF had also sent him MY STAMP, one of 2 submitted in Jan. 2013. I ask if my other stamp was in there also, "no" he replied. I called NFA and both were approved Nov. 12. Both were mailed Jan 22, 2013, according to NFA received Feb. 6, 2013 and approved Nov. 12, 2013.
So 9 months, 6 days or 278 days. I have yet to receive these in hand to date. I also informed NFA they sent my stamp to the wrong address.
I understand ATF has now gone back to the "pending to approval" thing again and the 3 month e-form receipts that some were lucky enough to receive was only a system test and is not a timeline for e-forms. I wonder now or if ever, the 4 eforms I subbed in Sept. will come to fruitition.

Haven't you heard? There is now a new system in place. If you want to get your NFA stamp back within the same decade you can do one of the following...

1. Make a big donation to Obama's political action fund.
2. Make a big donation to Eric Holder's legal defense fund.
3. Be a known Mexican cartel member.
4. Be a known Syrian rebel.

If you are not one of these, your stamp needs to be mishandled w/ extra scrutiny. After all, we do not want law abiding, tax paying Americans getting a hold of or making "weapons of war" with "high capacity ammunition feeding device magazine drum clips".

[RenegadeConservative]

At this point, I think I have a better chance of getting lucky with an porno actress than taking possession of my Sten Mk. II.

Thank you, NFA branch, for your ineptitude.

[jason8844]

At this point, I think I have a better chance of getting lucky with an porno actress than taking possession of my Sten Mk. II.

Thank you, NFA branch, for your ineptitude.

You are right and probably would have spent less money than you did on the MG. Money talks and with enough of it, I have no doubt you could find a porno actress who will be your "escort" for the evening. You will pay the fee and receive your "service" within a reasonable and predictable time frame.

With the NFA Branch, it is like having a high maintenance wife. She gets to drain you bank account with just a promise of future intimacy which may or may not occur in a "reasonable and predictable time frame". However, now that you are legally bound to her, the option of getting out is even less desirable. You are stuck in a no win situation where you survive on fantasy and hope alone.