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Thread: 41P Becomes 41F

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    Exclamation 41P Becomes 41F

    As many of you know by now, The Obama Administration has released its (almost) final ruling in regard to changes in policies and procedures for the applications to make and transfer NFA items. The NFATCA, along with the NRA and the American Suppressor Association, and our attorneys, is pleased to announce that the Department of Justice and ATF have removed the CLEO signature requirement from NFA making and transfer applications. Although all potential possessors now require identification and background checks, the CLEO signature requirement has now been eliminated and revised to a notification process. This should become effective 180 days after Federal Register publication. The AG Order can be found here.

    So what does all of this mean?

    As many of you are aware, the NFATCA has been working for more than a decade to eliminate the CLEO signature requirement. This has always been the expressed, number one issue that our membership and the firearms community wanted accomplished. We never stopped working toward that goal. Removing the CLEO signature requirement will, in the most basic terms, mean that more people have more access to more NFA items than ever before. While this benefits manufacturers and dealers, the consumer is the real winner here. To be sure, there is a vocal segment of the community that is not pleased with how we got to this point.

    Some deride the NFATCA by claiming that we "wrote 41P" in all of its previous iterations (many of which were Draconian responses to current events by the White House). Or they claim that the NFATCA "started the mess" with our petition. These views of the process are misguided, at best. The federal government clearly expressed concern that prohibited persons were gaining access to NFA items by way of entity (trusts, corporations, LLC's etc.) purchases that did not require precise identification (fingerprints and photographs) or background checks before we submitted our petition. The initial effort expressed by ATF/DOJ was a desire to eliminate, outright, non-natural person access to NFA ownership. Whether that could have been accomplished through legal means could be a matter of endless discussion. The fact that remained true was: even if they did not commit any violent crimes with registered NFA items they acquired via these entities, prohibited persons absolutely were gaining access to these items. It is a federal crime for a prohibited person to own any weapon. ATF/DOJ clearly declared that they would not continue to be in a position to facilitate such an unlawful enterprise.

    We worked with ATF/DOJ to create a compromise that would preserve the utility of entity ownership, level the playing field for all NFA making and transfer applicants, eliminate the CLEO signature requirement for everyone and increase NFA ownership opportunities for the entire community. Our petition started that formal process, even though there were some flaws with the language and wording of our original petition. We had buy in from ATF/DOJ and were working toward success when Sandy Hook happened and derailed the efforts. The White House took our original petition and turned it on its head and used it as the justification to demand CLEO signatures for everyone involved in any NFA making or transfer request. This became known as the 41P Notice of Proposed Rule making (NPRM) That (41P) is not what we requested, not what we petitioned, and not what we wrote. The White House NPRM was pure and simple political grandstanding.

    We immediately hired and retained noted legal representation and partnered with several national organizations in order to combat the federal overreach and to continue driving toward our original goal. To be sure, others mounted their own efforts to fight 41P. Some of those fought in cooperation with our group efforts and other took a more solitary route. We believe that all efforts to fight 41P were mostly helpful. After years of delay and procrastination, 41P became 41F and looks substantially similar to our original petition: A petition that addresses the concerns of the federal government while expanding NFA ownership opportunities for everyone by way of elimination of the CLEO signature requirement.

    Still, there are folks who are very displeased with how things have unfolded. The Second Amendment clearly states "shall not be infringed" and many believe that this is inviolate. The NFATCA understands that sentiment. The NFATCA also understands that despite that sentiment, legislation and regulation exists in the firearm community and will likely always exist. Under "shall not be infringed" there should not be NFA registration, classification of suppressors as firearms, or even the Hughes amendment that restricts machine gun ownership. With that said, those regulations exist in the real world and the NFATCA will fight on a daily basis to expand NFA opportunities in the regulated environment. We understand that many will view any compromise with the government on the issue of gun control as a failure. It is not possible for us to appease that view.

    There are those who have abused the opportunities that entity ownership provided under the old regulations. 41F greatly reduces that potential abuse by requiring every responsible person within such an entity to provide fingerprints and photographs and submit to an FBI background check just like every individual making or transfer applicant currently does. This is an additional burden on entity applicants, but no more of a burden than that of an individual. The playing field has been leveled. There will no longer be an opportunity to "fly under the radar, unidentified," for NFA ownership. All of the other benefits of entity ownership (estate planning, transfer paperwork reduction, item use, etc.) remain in place and available to any who choose to use entity ownership.

    The NFATCA expects that there will be some confusion over precisely who is a responsible person in terms of these new requirements. In the case of a trust, those with the power or authority to direct the management and policies of the trust includes any person who has the capability to exercise such power and possesses, directly or indirectly, the power or authority under any trust instrument, or under state law, to receive, possess, ship, transport, deliver, transfer, or otherwise dispose of a firearm for, or on behalf of the trust. Examples of who may be considered a responsible person include settlors/grantors, trustees, partners, members, officers, directors, board members, or owners. An example of who may be excluded from this definition of responsible person is the beneficiary of a trust, if the beneficiary does not have the current capability to exercise the powers or authorities listed above.

    Jeff Folloder

    NFATCA Executive Director
    www.nfatca.org










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    41F states that these responsible persons will need to submit fingerprints and photographs along with entity documentation when submitting an application for making or transfer of an NFA item. Some have expressed concern that 41F indicates that fingerprints must be done by an "official." We have spoken with ATF and they assure us that there are no new requirements for fingerprints and who must "create" the fingerprint cards and will clarify that in writing. Some have expressed concern that it will be onerous to submit, entity documents fingerprints and photographs for all responsible persons every time an application is made. 41F provides that if a new application is made within 24 months of an approved submission for the same entity, a simple certification of no change will suffice, however, fingerprints and photographs will still be required for each responsible person with each application.

    Many people are expressing rightful concern that ATF's NFA Branch is going to be deluged with applications seeking to get filed before the new rule goes into effect. NFATCA and ATF expect this to be true. NFA Branch has dramatically increased its processing efficiency in the past year through process and staffing. ATF senior management has promised to secure additional increased in resources from what the White House has committed in recent announcements in order to address the anticipated increased workload. ATF's senior management has also acknowledged that they will need to enhance or upgrade the current eForms system in order to deal with the 41F requirements when they go into effect. ATF was working towards this goal even before 41P was finalized. The workload will always increase and the infrastructure must improve in order to handle that workload. NFA Branch is absolutely working toward making the needed improvements a reality.

    Important points to be aware of:



    • The new rule will go into effect approximately 180 days after publication in the Federal Register. This would make an effective date of approximately July 4th if publication happens soon.
    • The new rule will not be retroactive to existing entities, applications in progress, and applications post marked before the effective date.
    • The new rule will affect new and existing entities when making application after the effective date.
    • The new rule does place an additional burden on entities in order to foreclose the possibility of prohibited persons gaining access to NFA items. The burden of identification and background checking, at least once, is the same burden that an individual applicant shoulder with each application.
    • The new rule eliminates the CLEO signature approval requirement for everyone.
    • The new rule requires CLEO notification (with a copy of the application).
    • Entity ownership benefits have not been lost, save for the ability for responsible persons to remain anonymous in the NFA ownership process.


    The NFATCA believes that the elimination of the CLEO signature approval requirement for everyone will increase NFA ownership opportunities for everyone in states that allow NFA ownership. Even states such as Texas, with its legendary firearms culture, had metropolitan areas where CLEOs simply would not sign. Those days are over. Now, all eligible persons can lawfully acquire NFA items as an individual or an entity, at their discretion. We expect there to be some clarification, explanation and amplification of various parts of 41F as we move toward the effective date. We will try to keep all informed of the happening as quickly as possible.

    Jeff Folloder

    NFATCA Executive Director
    www.nfatca.org










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    Please feel free to express issues regarding 41F in this thread.

    Jeff Folloder

    NFATCA Executive Director
    www.nfatca.org










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    http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/FR-2016...2016-00192.pdf
    41F has been published in the Federal Register.

    Jeff Folloder

    NFATCA Executive Director
    www.nfatca.org










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    Quote Originally Posted by ExecDirector View Post
    http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/FR-2016...2016-00192.pdf
    41F has been published in the Federal Register.
    So the 180 day countdown begins. I really do like the fact that CLEOs in non-friendly NFA jurisdictions will finally have no say in banning citizens from owning legal items. I love the fact that these anti Second Amendment County Sheriffs will have no recourse when these notifications of registration start pouring in.
    Last edited by jason8844; 01-15-2016 at 08:23 PM.

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    Me too. Surprisingly, this is an issue in Texas. There has pretty much never been a Sheriff in Harris County (Houston) that will sign. Go figure?

    Jeff Folloder

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    Quote Originally Posted by ExecDirector View Post
    Me too. Surprisingly, this is an issue in Texas. There has pretty much never been a Sheriff in Harris County (Houston) that will sign. Go figure?
    Here in Tarrant County, Sheriff Anderson signs, but this ruling speeds up the process by not having to wait for his signature.

    Now Dallas County is a different story. That Sheriff never signs and now the good citizens of Dallas County can register items as individuals and that Sheriff can't stop them.

    All in all, I am pretty happy with 41F. I hope it will open up the NFA industry to more people and continue to mainstream suppressors and SBRs to hopefully one day have the momentum to remove them from regulation.

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    A top line Q&A can be downloaded here.

    Jeff Folloder

    NFATCA Executive Director
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    Quote Originally Posted by ExecDirector View Post
    A top line Q&A can be downloaded here.
    No it can't.

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    Lovely server error... Should be fixed now!

    Jeff Folloder

    NFATCA Executive Director
    www.nfatca.org










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